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Man I would just like to express a FEW concerns I have with the current state of LAN gaming for the gamecube. Because of warp pipes selfish choice to keep the software closed source it's actually making a hundering progress on gamecube online gaming. If they were to make the project open source, we might be very far along with GC online gaming by now. Other people would have been able to examine the code and improve upon it.
Yea I understand warp pipe sacrificed their time to write the program and troubleshoot GC LAN > Online based gaming. However...is keeping the code closed source in the best interests of the GC gaming community? It just sets everything back and we have to wait for warp pipe's small meager staff to find time to make improvements on the software. |
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yeah it is a shame, but i guess we gotta take what we get | |||
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to be honest... i don't know y ur complaining. we now have online games because of the hard work and effort of a few "kids @ heart". we as a nintendo community shouldn't be getting angry over stupid little things like weather or not the program is open or closed source.... we should be rejoycing because they took the time to relice this program to the public for free. but thats my oppinion. | |||
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Elf2600 wrote:
to be honest... i don't know y ur complaining. lordnikon wrote:
Other people would have been able to examine the code and improve upon it. As if posting this sentance the first time wasn't enough. Elf2600 wrote:
we now have online games because of the hard work and effort of a few "kids @ heart". Yea I know I said lordnikon wrote: ...must not have read that either.
Yea I understand warp pipe sacrificed their time to write the program and troubleshoot GC LAN > Online based gaming. Elf2600 wrote:
we as a nintendo community shouldn't be getting angry over stupid little things like weather or not the program is open or closed source.... First, of whats with the jargon? This thread is....stupid? and little in size? Also, I merely was bringing up a topic for discussion. Not sure where the whole "anger" thing is seen in the original thread. I can't find it. Please specify? Elf2600 wrote:
we should be rejoycing because they took the time to relice this program to the public for free. Yea no kidding: >>>>> click here *LN wonders why he even tries* |
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lordnikon wrote:
*LN wonders why he even tries* ah... we all love the all the work you do for us |
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Indeed, keeping Warppipe open-source would have GREATLY helped the online scene (not saying it's bad right now, though). In the end, all they did was screw themselves and online GC gamers over. When I had first read about them going closed-source on slashdot, I was upset (still am), but the world goes on.. | |||
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I would have to agree that Warppipe should be open source. I also believe tthat if this was the case, the online capabilites, options and possibilities of gc online would be blowing up, rather then trickling along.
I think in the near future there will be open-source tunneling code available on the gc, but it is kind of shame that all the people who are dying (many are) to develop more network infrastucture for gc have to wait, because so does everyone else who are dying to play I am thankful for all Warp Pipe has done but I wonder sometimes if I would of already been playing Timesplitters 2 online with a boot disc, if it weren't for the closed source policies.. |
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now do u see all the freaking annger.... u all are complaining about stuff that is not up to u to argue about... i know what u said, and it is up to me to take it that way i wish...this whole thread is pointless!! every1 who has a problem w/ warp pipe being closed source is just sad that they cant hack it, but what they don't realize, is because of groups like warp pipe GCN is becomming less hackable and more fun for casual gamers like myself...
so in conclusion... STOP UR BITCHING AND ACCEPT THE FACTS OR DON'T PLAY GCN... MAKE LOVE NOT WAR, OR IN THIS CASE... PLAY GAMES DON'T BASH OTHERS DECISIONS. |
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I dont think this thread is pointless. We're allowed to discuss our opinions, most of us live in countries that allow us to do that (US, Canada, Japan, Europe/UK) so, I think the only one here that needs to shut up is you, Elf.
About Warppipe being closed/open source, I don't really care either way, at least its a method to get online with LAN games! |
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Elf2600 wrote:
every1 who has a problem w/ warp pipe being closed source is just sad that they cant hack it Exactly why the hell would we hack it? If we wanted to hack it, it wouldn't matter if it was open sourced or close sourced. Windows is closed source, yet how many viruses pop up monthly, how many hackers are imprisoned for hacking others machines? This is a discussion board, keyword being discussion. If you don't like what we're talking about, don't participate! It's so simple! Quote:
but what they don't realize, is because of groups like warp pipe GCN is becomming less hackable and more fun for casual gamers like myself... This is a LIE. In NO WAY is Warp Pipe making the GCN LESS HACKABLE. Warppipe has NOTHING to do with homebrew or piracy. It has no sway on ANYTHING that happens in either of those scenes. Personally, I can't wait for the day that the GCN is hacked to the point that homebrew proggies can be run without having to load up PSO everytime... As for piracy, however, that will happened no matter what. Every system has had some form of piracy on it, one way or another. The GC is no exception. Do a search for ACLoader. ACLoader is a proggy that allows one to play downloaded ISOs that have been ripped from GC discs on their GC without owning the actual game. Did warppipe have anything to do with this? I believe not. So, before you start getting angry at us (what exactly were we ANGRY about?) decide whether or not you really want to participate in the discussion, then, if you do participate, become educated. It really helps. |
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Yeah, I agree. It's a shame that the project is closed source. Others could help Warpipe do so much more. | |||
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Elf2600 wrote:
.... u all are complaining about stuff that is not up to u to argue about... Whose ass do I have to kiss before....ohhhh wait....I don't. Man thats RIGHT I have free will, I can talk about whatever I want. Hmmm and since this thread topic doesn't violate forum rules. IT IS UP TO US....to discuss this topic. Elf2600 wrote:
because of groups like warp pipe GCN is becomming less hackable and more fun for casual gamers like myself... I would love to see some of these so called FACTS your telling us to look at, how about providing some FACTS to backup this statement? |
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I didnt mean to stir up any hostility. I stated my opinion. Open discussion is a good thing. I have definitely not been angry.
Believe it or not I can actually uderstand some of the reasons why Warpipe would go closed source, but that doesn't mean its not a good thing to discuss at least. Come on now. I never bashed or even criticized Warppipe. PS: I actually was kind of joking/exagerating about the time splitters boot disc thing  |
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Nine wrote:
I didnt mean to stir up any hostility. I stated my opinion. Open discussion is a good thing. I have definitely not been angry.
Believe it or not I can actually uderstand some of the reasons why Warpipe would go closed source, but that doesn't mean its not a good thing to discuss at least. Come on now. I never bashed or even criticized Warppipe. PS: I actually was kind of joking/exagerating about the time splitters boot disc thing  I thought we were conflicting with Elf2600, not you..? ::confused:: We weren't mad at you for posting your views, but that's exactly why we're mad at Elf2600... He was saying that we shouldn't be saying anything about their choices, though we are allowed too... |
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satoshi wrote:
I thought we were conflicting with Elf2600, not you..? ::confused:: We weren't mad at you for posting your views, but that's exactly why we're mad at Elf2600... He was saying that we shouldn't be saying anything about their choices, though we are allowed too... I was replying to elf2600. I should of quoted, sorry for the confusion. |
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