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Nine
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:21 pm
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guyver2077 wrote:
1.IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS THAT YOU KNOW PERSONALLY THIS MAKES THE EXPERIENCE SO MUCH GREATER..


Exactly, and I have 3 friends I personally know (one who owns an xbox and loves it for other games) who all play PSO on GAMECUBE.

guyver2077 wrote:
2.THE LOADING IS TREMENDOUSLY BETTER......



I have to disagree. Tremendously is not an accurate word to use. The double save is non-existent, but during many sequences the Gamecube loads much faster. I think It is because the discs are smaller and the lens eye has to move less.
guyver2077 wrote:
3. IF YOUR A TECH FREAK YOULL ENJOY DOLBY DIGITAL AND HDTV SUPPORT...



Nine wrote:
There are actually more advanced graphical animations and effects that are on Gamecube but not on xbox (which makes absolutely no sense considering the xboxs "extreme" hardware}. - gc runnin progressive scan or s-video frankly blows the xbox away, which is quite sad really. .


The statement was partly my opinion, but first:Tthe Gamecube has graphical effects that were taken out for the Xbox port. Second:Gamecube runs Prgressive Scan!!! Dude!!! That is HDTV - 1080i pixles - Digital - With line doubling - SAME AS XBOX!!!

guyver2077 wrote:
4. I DONT KNOW WHY PEOPLE SAY NO ONE PLAYS PSO X....THE LOBBYS USUALLY HAVE A GOOD DEAL OF PPL....MAYBE PPL SAYING THAT CUZ UR COUNTING THE NUMBER OF JAP PPL PLAYING....I DONT REALLY CARE BOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THEM ANYWAYS.....


My friend had it online for the free month and there was less people just counting the US ships. I would not try to lie by creating a false comparison.

BTW I really hope you didn't purposely mean to be offensive to Japanese people.

On the Gamecube word select is automatically translated between all the supported languages in the game. Which means when you use a word select command like: Nice playing with with you > Everybody
All of the people from every country read it the same in their OWN language. Also there are many terms that are universal such as lol, smily faces, >< angry faces, etc etc etc - so communication is easy and fun in my opinion.

guyver2077 wrote:
THEIR BOTH EQUALLY THE SAME...ONLY THING GC VERSION HAS OVER XBOX IS THE NIGHTS QUEST/UPDATED QUESTS AND GBA CONNECTIVITY...


I have to dsagree. They are not equal and the gamecube has actually one really big thing that you forgot to mention. Episode 3 connectivty interaction!!! That is a whole new game for the standard HL price and awesome interaction between games. And yes I think when a game connected to another in such a way it does qaulify as the same game.

But as someone said, we are entitled to having and expressing our own opinons. So whatever you do - have fun and enjoy the game! :P

Posted Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:22 pm:

guyver2077 wrote:
bro bottom line all im saying is if you have (real life) friends and all have xbox they should go out and get the xbox version....lets face it ...i have a gc but barely annyone else cares for it......so i would enjoy playing on x with my friends instead of using kb on gc....its much more user friendly......and i understand people fascination to travel to jp servers but i really doeant make a great differrence.....im not saying gc version sucks but x is superior in certain areas


??? Real Life huh? Well bro, I have WAY to many to list here, believe me!... Its hard to keep up them all many times, especially when I want to play PSO so much. Laughing But do I sense a slight subliminal reference intended to imply "GameCubers have no friends" If thats the case, you can proceed to STFU! I wrote some stuff about why don't like Xbox but thats my opinion, and if you start pre-school era insults to one another (Especially at a GAMECUBE board) it is rude and I consider it SPAMMING!

I assume that is not what you intended though, so I am hopefully sorry that I mentioned it.

The keyboard is WAY more user friendly in my opinion and I think having lobby animations also makes more users friendly. Wink

If you have real life friends and you want to play on Xbox, go for it man. But remember, just because PSOX may be your best choice/favorite, it doesn't mean that others who play or want to play any certain other version, are going to agree with you. Even though I agree it is natural to want more players to play with you on your system of choice.

It sounds like you really like PSOX and that is GREAT for you. Have fun! Just PLEASE dont say things like this:
guyver2077 wrote:
x is superior in certain areas

With no valid reason besides voice chat, which for many, many, many people and reasons , is not as good as using a keyboard. So once i again I have to say I disagree with you.

Please do tell us some more factual reasons why the Xbox is better.... I seriously want to hear some good reasons now! Because it sure amazes the living hell out of me why people would choose it over the gamecube version when its the only game they wanted to play. F@ck It! Ok, here is a few to get you started - (the only ones I know)


1. You like all the other Xbox games better than GameCube games and dont mind paying more for a system, that has the games you like and perhaps Go Live already and friends who play it and like voice chat better, and are not into PSO enough to be interested in the Episode 3 interaction.

2. Money is not an option.
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guyver2077
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Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:30 am
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omg these are reasons why sometimes i dont bother posting because you always get someone who disects you entire posts and attempts to correct everything....i own both versions...""big deal the gc version has a nicer telepipe effect""...cmon give me a break...why bother typing when you can just talk to your teammates..(big reason #1 x is more enjoyable)..i have played both versions to death...but once again gc fails "tremendously...k maybe tremendously is a lil exaggeration...and i wasnt referring to the annoying double save...once again compared to loading up quests or to entering rooms....gc just doesnt match up)...controller wise i really dont clearly see anyone over the other but i will admit its awesome playing with the wavebird...quests wise..gc does have the upper hand but then again it has been out longer...x will catch up with time (also god bless the hard drive that gives us downloadable quests and server patches for free unlike gc which youll have to get ep. 1&2 plus)...audio clear winner...x i wont go into much detail there....and if price is not an issue then there is no reason not to get the xbox version...another thing as well i hear people complaining about is the whole xbox live subscription...this should not be a problem bacause your going to wanna have that subscription anyways....xbox live is second to none with online gaming......i dont want to hear ppl complaing about that you need to but the $50 starter kit to be able to play pso..did you forget you have to buy the bba adapter or modem for gc...$35 then $20 for a kb...and as an added bonus gc pso only gives you first month free as opposed to x gives you first 2 months free...

side note...i understand that pso ep 3 is coming out as well for gc (which i will get first day ofcourse) and i guess you do get your 8.95 moneys worth for both games so thats kool....

bottom line....i mostly pay my 8.95 so i can play with my friends and have fun doing quests....wouldnt anyone want to play with voice than wasting time on kb...r.i.p my treasured dreamcast but face facts....those typing days are over.....

EDIT....o and there is lobby animations in xbox and are much easier to pull off than gc...(no kb needed)
 
satoshi
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Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:56 am
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Uh oh, I see the start of a flame war....

Bottom line? Bottom line!? There is no "bottom line" when it comes to choosing a system for a certain game. Well, yea, there is. Your CHOICE. Give it a rest! "Ooo voice chat is soo much better than the kb!" Sorry, I don't like voice chat. "if you have friends, x is the way to go." Sorry, either a) I don't have friends or b) they're on GC (just before I go further, I am not directly quoting you, guyver, or anyone else, just generic things I hear on various boards by random people). Why bother typing when you can talk? I'm shy Embarassed, talking to a girl that I like standing infront of me is hard. Talking to someone I can't even see? That's just plain weird. I've only done that once (phone doesn't count), and it was too awkward. Besides, I've heard that some (some, few, not all, not a vast majority, just a few annoying people) people use annoying and hard to understand voice masks. Also, if you see a FOnewearl, but they talk with this deep guy's voice, that's just creepy. Technically, PSOX shouldn't ever "catch up" to PSOGC quest-wise. PSOGC was released earlier, so it will always get the new quests before PSOX. PSOX gets them after 4 months (or however long it took them to release PSOX after PSOGC). We don't have to buy PSO Plus to get anything. Patches? There isn't much need for patches. The shop dupe trick and multi-equip are hard to pull off. Downloadable quests? We have a memory card. "If price isn't an issue, there's no reason not to get the xbox version." Major issue there... If price isn't an issue, then I'd rather go for the cheaper one (PSOGC, cause that's where my friends are) and have extra money for other stuff. no reason to not get the xbox version.. BIG reason to not get the xbox version (let alone an xbox): I don't WANT to! Whoa! Ever think of that? (sorry, kinda late, I get weird/easily agitated when I'm tired)

All in all, however, it boils down to one and only one factor. Personal preference. If you already have an Xbox and Xbox Live, go for PSOX. If you have a cube and don't mind using a keyboard, go for PSOGC. In the end, it'll only lead to more and more fanboyish threads and kindergarten-level insults, and at the end of the day you don't really feel better about posting that kinda shit, do you? Just go play your system of choice and don't worry about which version others are playing.

What's the similiarity between the price of tea in China, and which version of PSO someone's playing?

Nothing, cause they don't matter Razz
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Link00seven
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Posted:
Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:09 am
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I think everything has been summed up pretty good...

I personally see this topic getting locked...
 
Mastershake
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Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:58 am
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Hmm looks like everyones so angry and can't seem to get their point across because both have opposite opinions. I'd just give it a rest.
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DarkLink
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Posted:
Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:00 am
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You know every person has their own opinions on things and guyver2077 has a personal preference for the PSOX....so be it. I personally wouldn't get the X version but like I said it comes down to personal preference so all of you just stop the arguing and forget this topic.... Smile Smile Smile
 
Grex-Unit-05
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Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:27 pm
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I personally think that this topic has now hit the perverably lack of intelliegence in any of its posts anymore. I mean, two people here clearly have posted their own opinions and their own passions about which system they like best. I find it healthy to have this kind of discussion but when it comes down to throwing insults and getting mad and throwing temper tantrums when it comes over facts and opinions I find this highly childish and boring and I think this topic needs to either be deleted or some people here need to start to act their age.

If you want to have these kinds of posts I would suggest you go to Pso-World or gamefags and do your business there.
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guyver2077
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Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:09 pm
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well topic should be locked..but anywayz its not that i prefer x its just thats its a little more advanced...but i "OWN" both versions because i love pso....and i knew when i purchased the gc one that it was slightly inferior and wouldnt get as much time as the x one...and who the hell cares about being shy...its a videogame...cmon...and yes bottom line it might come out to preference but people on here dont really care about that and just because they dont have an xbox they rave about the gc one because its the only one they have to look at.....and gc has nuthing to offer online wise so most ppl will not but the cube for jsut pso( i would but common fold wont) so therefore the modern crazy just happens to be xbox live and pso just happens to one of the games.. if i didtn have high speed then gc would be a no brainer but thats just not the case.....either way you cant go wrong with either version as its the same game


jesust christ this reminds me of the n64 vs psx battles......(psx sucks)
 
McRing_Ring
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Posted:
Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:14 pm
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This was a good discussion and the 'question' has been answered, it should be locked
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Nine
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Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:02 am
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I think this is a great discusion, in fact one of the best I have ever read about the topic. The only thing that made me angry was what was said about Japanese people and the thing about "having no friends" (Which I really think guyver2077 didn't intend in the way I may have thought (I HOPE)t- but I was irked and put my defense - I may have been rude/explicit but I don't think it is immature to aknowledge such things, in fact, it takes a lot of maturity to not flame after hearing things that one believes to be needlessly insulting. - I think both I and guyver2077 could of been much meaner/ruder and I respect his dignity in the matter too!) other than that I don't see anything wrong with what was discussed. Also, believe it or not I would purchase an Xbox if PSO had features that fit what I liked, or had other games I was interested in.. Shocked

But... its over. I thank you for participating and am glad to have discussed it. Also I think you seem like an intelligent person and lets face it - we have something in common - we like PSO. Im not kissing ass, I am a optimistic person and I think we should all just be friends. Damn! I sound like a hippy! HaHa.

Also I assume we are both legit? I am militantly legit and am always honored to meet others who play the game the way I believe it was supposed to be played. It is about the most important thing to me in the game. So based on that... If you played GC PSO online, I think we would be most likely be friends and I would have to ask if you wanted to play. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Oh, one last thing... I forgot to mention one of my friends who plays PSO GC uses a hands free phone/three way calling connected to his computer as a VoiceChat device, with a couple of his friends from PSO DC. So VoiceChat isnt impossible on GC, if you have computer and/ or free long distance and a hands free reciever.
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guyver2077
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Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:03 am
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no i wasnt offending jap players..(dam just by me reffering to them as jp players...thats what their called on ship select) and the whole friends thing was exactly wat i meant..just if you have friends in your area you would all wanna play together right?? if all those ppl had a particular version wouldnt you want to get that same one so you all could play together


anywayz a good but stressful topic comes to an end...
 
Grex-Unit-05
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Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:52 pm
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I really think it would be a good idea if this topic was dropped all together and guyver you need a lesson in manners, I only see you as being the one who is getting all upest and flying off the handle and accusing everyone here about riding the Gamecube bandwagon, I used to be multiplatform myself, I had a PS2, and you know what, it broke because sony's hardware is junk and I find myself using my Gamecube more anyways. And you say that the Gamecube is inferior, you show me the facts and I'll take time to read them, don't start throwing words out that you can't back up. Either drop this subject now or have it be deleted or I shall see that I take actions into my own hands with the admin here. Guyver I also find your terms that you use for japanese people, "japs" offensive and racist and I won't tolerate that kind of behavior on this board. I thougth we were all civilized gamers here in this community and this type of behavior is not needed here.

Oh and by the way guyver, this is a Gamecube message board not an xbox board so what would you expect most people to say here? A person asked a question, it was answered but you took it way out of line my friend.
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Link00seven
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Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:53 pm
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Grex-Unit-05 wrote:
I really think it would be a good idea if this topic was dropped all together and guyver you need a lesson in manners, I only see you as being the one who is getting all upest and flying off the handle and accusing everyone here about riding the Gamecube bandwagon, I used to be multiplatform myself, I had a PS2, and you know what, it broke because sony's hardware is junk and I find myself using my Gamecube more anyways. And you say that the Gamecube is inferior, you show me the facts and I'll take time to read them, don't start throwing words out that you can't back up. Either drop this subject now or have it be deleted or I shall see that I take actions into my own hands with the admin here. Guyver I also find your terms that you use for japanese people, "japs" offensive and racist and I won't tolerate that kind of behavior on this board. I thougth we were all civilized gamers here in this community and this type of behavior is not needed here.

Oh and by the way guyver, this is a Gamecube message board not an xbox board so what would you expect most people to say here? A person asked a question, it was answered but you took it way out of line my friend.


I'm going to applaud everything you just said...
 
guyver2077
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Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:14 pm
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Grex-Unit-05 wrote:
I really think it would be a good idea if this topic was dropped all together and guyver you need a lesson in manners, I only see you as being the one who is getting all upest and flying off the handle and accusing everyone here about riding the Gamecube bandwagon, I used to be multiplatform myself, I had a PS2, and you know what, it broke because sony's hardware is junk and I find myself using my Gamecube more anyways. And you say that the Gamecube is inferior, you show me the facts and I'll take time to read them, don't start throwing words out that you can't back up. Either drop this subject now or have it be deleted or I shall see that I take actions into my own hands with the admin here. Guyver I also find your terms that you use for japanese people, "japs" offensive and racist and I won't tolerate that kind of behavior on this board. I thougth we were all civilized gamers here in this community and this type of behavior is not needed here.

Oh and by the way guyver, this is a Gamecube message board not an xbox board so what would you expect most people to say here? A person asked a question, it was answered but you took it way out of line my friend.



omg i cant believe this guy wrote this garbage....how the hell am i being offensive to anyone...are you mr jap now...wat the hell.....racist my ass.....jesus christ...im not upset about what anyone else thinks...im just posting what i know is fact and you can take that any way you wish...i am very civilized and did not post anything to offend anyone...and if you go around the jp servers you will find that the few players that know english refer to themselves as "jap" players...thank you

edit....and we did settle this topic in civiized manner...but mr wise guy had to continue it with putting in his 2 cents which adds nothing to this post

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lordnikon
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Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:42 pm
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Impossible for people to only bring up the facts and simply that. People just can't help but argue about things. The first few posts started to bring up just facts which was good. Then the opinions started rolling...then people started listing why they don't like the other console and why theirs is better.

And look where it leads? I let this thread stay up it was going ok for a bit, I can understand a slight debate but now this is getting just plain rediculious.

You guys are bashing guyver like he is some sort of racist because he said JAP? Look there is USA, EUR, and JP...sometimes people say JAP just cause of a 3 letter association and the context in which they are using it in is not racist. People seem to be looking for an excuse to start a fucking fighting. This is petty and childesh.

Everyone in this thread is guilty of acting like a complete idiot. Including myself for letting this actualy stay open for discussion.

Here is the raw deal people. Xbox and Gamecube PSO do have differences:

Xbox has:
Sharper graphics
Missing special FX
Plenty of US gamers but NO JP and NO EUR ships
Voice Chat
Harddrive Support and a Download Quest already
2nd in line to recieve online updates
Must have xboxlive gamertag to play OFFLINE
Pay for xboxlive AND HL
NO Dialup support
Cheating in PSO is easier on xbox
Benifits from buddy list and xboxlive's community

Gamecube has:
Enhanced special FX
GBA Connectivity
Full region play allowing for all JP, US, and EUR ships
Highest PSO gaming population
NO Voice Chat
PSO Proxy allowing for snapshots sent to PC
NO download quests available yet
Dialup and Broadband capabilities
Quests and new features come to cube first
1-4 player offline multiplayer play
Corruption can occur from double save

This is it and if people feel they have to get all damn defensive about the features list and start comparing which is BETTER....then don't post. Nobody cares. Let the person who wants to buy them decide for themselves after looking at the feature comparison.

And everyone who posted in this thread, beside me, is acting like an idiot....why? Because nobody had the self discipline to put an end to the argument. You guess just start fueling the flames and arguing like little children. Way to be productive. This therad is locked. And I will never ever allow another post about xbox vs gc pso. Why? Cause it would be repeat posting Smile the question has already been answer in this thread with a facts comparison as you can see above.
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